1 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:06,789 right we're here today in with church in 2 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:08,880 cardiff while on the border with church 3 00:00:12,070 --> 00:00:10,480 and clandeff north 4 00:00:13,190 --> 00:00:12,080 to talk to keith robbins who had an 5 00:00:15,509 --> 00:00:13,200 experience in 6 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:15,519 in late september 1991 7 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:17,199 uh me and steve are here today uh to 8 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:19,199 talk to keith and 9 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:20,320 keith would you like to tell us what 10 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:26,070 back in 1991 and me and two of my 11 00:00:29,189 --> 00:00:28,000 friends crystal friends since all this 12 00:00:31,349 --> 00:00:29,199 hallway 13 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:31,359 we went out to camping when even i had 14 00:00:37,030 --> 00:00:35,280 to nag my parents to death to follow 15 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:37,040 the tent off my brother because my 16 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:39,440 brother's birthday on september 9th 17 00:00:45,029 --> 00:00:42,320 and it was a couple of weeks after after 18 00:00:46,470 --> 00:00:45,039 i borrowed this tent so i had to look 19 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:46,480 after it 20 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:49,039 anyway we're looking for a camping spot 21 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:51,840 to think we've got the car parked 22 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:53,440 just over by where the second tree is 23 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:56,000 over there 24 00:00:59,510 --> 00:00:58,239 westbourne crescent than with church and 25 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:59,520 yeah yeah yeah it's the land of 26 00:01:02,069 --> 00:01:01,199 wichita's border 27 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:02,079 and 28 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:05,119 um as we as we were looking we just just 29 00:01:08,710 --> 00:01:06,799 on the corner by there this all happened 30 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:08,720 in two three minutes we've only just 31 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:10,640 roamed the corner just by there look 32 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:12,400 looking looking way to 33 00:01:16,390 --> 00:01:14,400 pitch our attendant 34 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:16,400 and then basically basically but we're 35 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:18,880 baffled to to where the car's gone 36 00:01:22,789 --> 00:01:20,880 because it all happened so so thing it 37 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:22,799 was a datsun chatty and we had our 38 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:25,040 pitbull dog in the back and the and the 39 00:01:29,749 --> 00:01:27,119 tents and 40 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,759 we're walking down the road baffles 41 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:31,759 completely lost on all what the hell has 42 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:34,400 just gone on and as as i'm walking 43 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:36,240 across there 44 00:01:39,670 --> 00:01:37,759 over you can see over there you can see 45 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:39,680 the mountain tops of the horizon and 46 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:42,479 above the horizon you could see 47 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:44,000 i thought they were pink flamingos 48 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:46,159 flying south for the summer but my two 49 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:48,159 mates were laughing their heads off and 50 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:50,479 my one mate said to me he said keeps 51 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:52,720 their fireflies and then i start 52 00:01:56,870 --> 00:01:55,439 laughing to him but they were 53 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:56,880 they would i was looking for the 54 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:59,119 flapping motion on the birds like like 55 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:00,560 pink flamingos because they were in a 56 00:02:06,069 --> 00:02:03,040 formation of a triangle 57 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:06,079 they were pink luminous orange 58 00:02:12,869 --> 00:02:09,920 like in a set of a pool game of pool the 59 00:02:14,150 --> 00:02:12,879 triangle bay but like an inch apart and 60 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:14,160 i could see them go 61 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:16,400 no noise there was total silence it 62 00:02:20,309 --> 00:02:18,640 wasn't a plane it wasn't an helicopter 63 00:02:23,350 --> 00:02:20,319 then i can verify that with sylvan 64 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:23,360 salway and mr christopher french 65 00:02:28,309 --> 00:02:26,080 so far away did with these objects um as 66 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,319 we were walking i prefer the dong as you 67 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:30,560 as you see because the cars disappeared 68 00:02:34,830 --> 00:02:32,160 we're baffled because it all happened 69 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:34,840 within two two three four minutes 70 00:02:39,270 --> 00:02:37,519 maximum and as we're walking down i 71 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:39,280 don't think there was as much hedge in 72 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:41,680 bushes there but if behind that tree 73 00:02:46,150 --> 00:02:44,160 tree line and the houses you could see 74 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:46,160 all the mountain ridges all that the 75 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:48,319 backs of the thing 76 00:02:52,070 --> 00:02:50,160 that you could see like the mountain 77 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:52,080 lion like and they were just 78 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,519 just about there you're looking between 79 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:54,959 the houses right yeah 80 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:56,720 if we if we can walk up by here you can 81 00:02:59,110 --> 00:02:58,080 see that right 82 00:03:00,869 --> 00:02:59,120 but like you say 83 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:00,879 go for it i can't even see it from the 84 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:03,440 gap by there but all along here and like 85 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:05,200 you say this it was years ago there 86 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:07,200 might have been a lot more bushes and 87 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,800 bro 88 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:10,239 it might be a favorite dog stoner 89 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,000 forever but you could see the horizon of 90 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:14,400 the mountains if you want if you want to 91 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:16,480 walk down it's up to you so you've 92 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:19,200 associated the missing car on the dog 93 00:03:22,949 --> 00:03:20,879 with with the lights 94 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:22,959 it's it did happen at the same time yeah 95 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:24,879 it all happened it all unfolded more or 96 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:27,120 less the car disappeared a couple of 97 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:29,040 minutes 98 00:03:33,670 --> 00:03:30,799 we were just baffled just standing in 99 00:03:35,030 --> 00:03:33,680 the road and then what shape did you say 100 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:35,040 the lights were 101 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:37,760 they were a luminous orangey pink 102 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:41,200 like a fiery orangey luminous pink 103 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:43,840 in the formation of a triangle 104 00:03:47,830 --> 00:03:46,480 yeah how many lights about 12 to 15 of 105 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:47,840 them like you said like a pokemon it was 106 00:03:52,229 --> 00:03:49,760 a fleet a fleet 107 00:03:55,509 --> 00:03:52,239 i thought i thought the alif ali 108 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:55,519 af base in saint athens i thought it 109 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:57,120 could be red arrows did that even come 110 00:04:01,030 --> 00:03:59,040 to my mind what time it did there was no 111 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:01,040 noise or there was no what time of day 112 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:02,640 was that yeah this was out perhaps one 113 00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:05,280 in the morning was it any sound 114 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:07,120 sunny was there any sound no song 115 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:08,799 whatsoever yeah 116 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:11,200 no i see the car disappeared within a 117 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:12,400 couple of minutes 118 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:14,799 yeah three minutes 119 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:16,799 it was mind-boggling you can't drive 120 00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:19,759 your way no i i i like i said my mates 121 00:04:23,670 --> 00:04:21,919 walked a bit further down unless i 122 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:23,680 stayed just literally on the corner by 123 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:24,880 there 124 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:26,000 and 125 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:27,280 they were saying to me where's the car 126 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:29,040 they thought mr thought i was playing a 127 00:04:32,469 --> 00:04:31,120 trick on them but no i wasn't when you 128 00:04:35,350 --> 00:04:32,479 had the keys with you did you yeah 129 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,360 christopher i love the keys yeah 130 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:37,120 like like i said this was no sign of 131 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,560 that yeah we ended up yeah we ended up 132 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:40,720 just 133 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:42,400 good job my father never asked me about 134 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:44,000 the tens because i would probably either 135 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:45,600 beat him or without the car and the dog 136 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:47,199 would never seen again never seen again 137 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:49,040 we phoned the police the next morning 138 00:04:54,710 --> 00:04:52,160 and traceable and we never ever 139 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:54,720 heard anything ever since about the car 140 00:05:01,590 --> 00:04:57,360 or the dog how old was the dog the dog 141 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:01,600 was he was only a it was a pup about 142 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:03,360 three to six months maybe 143 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:04,960 yeah it's a puppy they said these lights 144 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:06,000 were in the right in the form of a 145 00:05:09,670 --> 00:05:07,520 triangle yeah and how many likes were 146 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:09,680 there yeah about 12 or 15 and you said 147 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:10,720 you mentioned something about a pool 148 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:13,120 table like the yeah into the formation 149 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:14,800 of a triangle just before you're about 150 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:17,280 to smash them over an inch apart if 151 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:19,680 that's like that's what i meant like 152 00:05:23,029 --> 00:05:21,199 what shape was each light if you could 153 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:23,039 remember oh 154 00:05:27,909 --> 00:05:24,639 like a disc shape 155 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:29,110 yeah i've seen the drawing you did the 156 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:31,199 drawing for the for the movie yeah 157 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:32,240 it was 158 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:41,919 just 159 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:43,759 i like when i think 160 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:46,000 that there was a there was a oh 161 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:48,160 how can i put it 162 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:51,759 basically it was just a fiery arm but 163 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:53,919 there must have been some solid metallic 164 00:05:57,909 --> 00:05:55,280 or something like 165 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:57,919 but i i i said it looked like most 166 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:00,000 people's drawings when they draw the 167 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:02,560 average disc shape with maybe like a 168 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:04,479 little dome on the top they wasn't like 169 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:06,400 that they were like 170 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:07,680 they were like 171 00:06:11,590 --> 00:06:09,440 as my finger is you could see like it's 172 00:06:13,909 --> 00:06:11,600 like a mad shape yeah like a like a 173 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:13,919 teardrop yeah the other way 174 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:16,080 and they were all in formation like that 175 00:06:19,270 --> 00:06:17,600 that's that's moving one direction all 176 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:19,280 moving one direction all staying in the 177 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:21,680 same formation which which direction 178 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:26,710 well you're looking that way they were 179 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:29,039 going from west to east 180 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:31,360 from west to east that's what made me 181 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:33,520 that's westeros yeah 182 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:35,280 yeah well well i've gotta be mixed up 183 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:36,639 then yeah because i was thinking like 184 00:06:40,629 --> 00:06:38,000 the alif 185 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:40,639 with them after the pink flamingos and 186 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:43,600 uh if you look up there now and see 187 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:45,360 the triangular shape of the formation 188 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:46,639 how big do you think the formation would 189 00:06:51,749 --> 00:06:49,840 be in that space for instance well 190 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:51,759 because we was a little bit further down 191 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:54,560 i may try yeah we can't we can see the 192 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:56,240 the hilltops 193 00:07:01,350 --> 00:06:57,840 because we was a little bit further down 194 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:01,360 yeah and they were above should we walk 195 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:02,160 through that 196 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:02,880 like 197 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:04,639 as we was walking down the lights come 198 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:06,720 from like from that area we sort of 199 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:08,880 thing and they were just 200 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:09,840 gone 201 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:11,199 but but like like you say you could see 202 00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:13,199 them going across there 203 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:20,550 as high as the mountain range i wouldn't 204 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:21,440 uh 205 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:23,680 i can't be sure hundred percent i'd i 206 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:25,599 really can't sure but it seemed like 207 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:27,840 they were flying the same height as the 208 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:29,039 mountains 209 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:31,440 give or take maybe a couple of 210 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:33,680 or you know maybe 100 meters away you 211 00:07:37,189 --> 00:07:35,759 said you were 15 or 16 at the time 16 i 212 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:37,199 think i was yeah 213 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:39,680 yeah and just a couple of weeks after 214 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:40,639 brother's birthday because he had the 215 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:42,240 10th for his birthday yeah 216 00:07:46,629 --> 00:07:44,800 yeah on the 9th of september yeah 217 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:46,639 so you report you reported it to the 218 00:07:51,670 --> 00:07:49,120 police the following day yeah but by the 219 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:51,680 car and the dog we report reported 220 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:54,240 because because uh silver and christian 221 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:55,919 takes three and for the dog they wanted 222 00:07:59,749 --> 00:07:58,400 their dog back and the car and did you 223 00:08:01,350 --> 00:07:59,759 mention the 224 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:01,360 the ufos to the police when you told 225 00:08:04,869 --> 00:08:03,280 them about the car missing 226 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:04,879 i don't think i did because they would 227 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:06,479 have laughed at me probably me they 228 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:07,280 would probably 229 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:08,400 thought there was a hoax call or 230 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:10,240 something i'm not sure 231 00:08:15,670 --> 00:08:13,039 no because we would have phoned up 232 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:15,680 above the car and the dog so we we're 233 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:18,639 not going to mention we've seen so 234 00:08:22,550 --> 00:08:20,960 ufos when we're trying to track 235 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:22,560 you said a few years later then you you 236 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:24,400 wrote the letter to the mod yeah the 237 00:08:27,909 --> 00:08:25,840 minister's advisor what made you write 238 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:27,919 the letter 239 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:30,400 it was something it stuck in my head it 240 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:33,680 sort of scared me because it seems to 241 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:34,640 like 242 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:37,599 i seen something i should have seen i 243 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:39,599 should have been at home in bed 244 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:41,760 and i happen to be in the wrong place or 245 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:43,599 the right place at the right time to see 246 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:45,279 what i've seen that night 247 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:48,080 i can't explain only once i've seen her 248 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:50,160 and i'd be willing to have a light 249 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:52,080 attack the test to say what happened 250 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:53,760 that night 251 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:56,640 exactly what really did happen but some 252 00:09:01,910 --> 00:08:59,920 people say a lie detector only proves 253 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:01,920 if you believe it yourself apparently i 254 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:03,519 don't really know understand how they 255 00:09:07,990 --> 00:09:05,760 work and that but i would be willing to 256 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:08,000 have one because i'm not lying i got a 257 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:10,480 daughter i swear on her life that's 258 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:12,399 exactly what happened that night 259 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,480 and only once it ever happened that i 260 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:16,640 have never seen anything like it in my 261 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:17,600 life 262 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:19,680 i have people come up to me mock me and 263 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:21,760 i laugh at me i have people come up to 264 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:23,920 me and pull me to the side and tell me 265 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:25,600 keith i got i got a story i wouldn't 266 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:28,480 tell anybody else but i'm gonna tell you 267 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:29,360 and 268 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:31,440 they'd have trusted me because i'm not 269 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:34,160 gonna laugh about their experience 270 00:09:37,829 --> 00:09:36,240 because something really strange 271 00:09:40,790 --> 00:09:37,839 happened in my life 272 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:40,800 whether whether it was a ufo or 273 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:42,399 something paranormal 274 00:09:46,230 --> 00:09:44,160 i don't know what it was it was 275 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:46,240 absolutely phenomenal i don't know what 276 00:09:48,790 --> 00:09:47,519 it was but 277 00:09:50,710 --> 00:09:48,800 the car 278 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:50,720 and the dog just vanished off the face 279 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:51,839 of the earth 280 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:54,240 for the sake of a walk around the corner 281 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:56,080 and i was because they were a bit 282 00:10:00,070 --> 00:09:58,080 further down i was more more close to 283 00:10:03,190 --> 00:10:00,080 the car and i didn't hear so chris had 284 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:03,200 the keys yes um then you're driving off 285 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:06,240 i i i i would earned the door open the 286 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:08,480 dog could possibly have backed 287 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:10,320 anything make that money i'm only here 288 00:10:13,509 --> 00:10:11,600 three minutes away that's a good point 289 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:13,519 actually yeah it was a it was a pit bull 290 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:16,000 yeah in the car in the car 291 00:10:30,550 --> 00:10:28,790 pinching it or something they're going 292 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:30,560 to be beware you have a pitbull dog in 293 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:33,200 the back inning so that's what i mean it 294 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:35,040 really baffles me to this day but i 295 00:10:38,069 --> 00:10:36,399 don't i don't know what happened but 296 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:38,079 i'll always believe what happened that 297 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:40,000 night and i'll take it to the grave with 298 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:42,800 me as well i mean